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[Decision] Must a resume failure reach the CALLER in a shape it can act on? — the family question triage reserved, now that its instance cards have each measured their own half and stopped at the same contract #16472

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Filed by the domain:services PM seat, session 03324ae2-0f5b-5ad2-8a2e-cf4aaff5a909 / https://claude.ai/code/session_01XpTx2tbq3pZRYAdoGt6E6Y, on 2026-09-07.

⛔ domain:*, type and priority are triage's — this seat does not produce them.
⛔ This card decides nothing and ships nothing. It exists so the maintainer can rule once on a question that four cards have independently arrived at. It is, literally, the thing #15556's option D defers to — which today does not exist, so the maintainer cannot pick D.

Why now, and on whose authority

The triage seat reserved this card explicitly, and handed the filing decision to this lane (#15556, comment 5546751881, verbatim):

⭐ 家族是真的,靠交叉引用承载,⛔ 不靠合卡。 而家族层面确实有一个值得问的问题——平台是否应当有一条通则:一次 resume 失败必须以调用方可据以行动的形状到达调用方? 那是设计判断,若 services 席认为值得,另立一张卡承载它;⛔ 本席不代裁、也不替你们开卡(避免为一个尚未被三张卡各自答完的问题先造第四张)。

That last parenthesis is the condition, and it is now satisfied: each instance card has done its own measurement and each has stopped at the same undecided contract. Filing it is this seat's call, and this seat is making it.

⛔ This is NOT a merge of the instance cards. Triage ruled 「三张卡就是三张」 and the three reasons still hold (one card is cross-lane; the cards have different recipes; their first actions differ). Every instance keeps its own number, its own measurement and its own remaining half. What this card carries is the one sentence they all need answered.

The question

When a resume fails — at any layer, through any door — must the failure reach the caller in a shape the caller can act on? And if so, what is that shape: an additive carrier on the success envelope, a distinct refusal code, or a status-code change?

The four instances, and what each has already MEASURED

card lane the layer that loses the fact measured? remaining half
#15221 domain:cli (packages/runtime) the resume door's 400 FLOW_FAILED details copy errorMessage + summary and not status ⇒ data.status: 'stranded' is unreachable on the wire through any door ✅ read at source, on the card undecided: carry status in the 400 details, or mint a FLOW_STRANDED sibling code (the console reads 400 FLOW_FAILED as terminal, so a distinct code is what lets a client branch without a message regex)
#15555 domain:services the engine's throw-after-journal window ⇒ a repairable strand reports repairable: false ✅ measured with two-way controls its half LANDED — 0cf086759 "keep the stranded verdict when post-journal bookkeeping throws" (PR #15949)
#15556 domain:services bubbleToParent's catch degrades to a warn ⇒ the decision door answers 200 resumed: true over a stranded parent, and the runId it hands back names the child that completed ✅ reproduced end-to-end, with CONTROL A (healthy composition ⇒ byte-identical answer) and CONTROL B (non-subflow shape through the same door ⇒ does throw RESUME_FAILED) log half LANDED — 1375344b6 (PR #15903), status === 'stranded' → error. ⛔ The door half is unshipped and is exactly A/B/C/D
#15970 domain:services recall's strand reports as an ordinary non-failure — no repairable discriminator — where the identical strand through decide carries one ✅ independently re-measured today, see below undecided; it is the same door question wearing the recall mask

Landing authority for the two landed halves, taken locally at zero quota (git log origin/main | grep -c '(#N)', cwd control '(#15365)' = 1): (#15903) = 1 · 0cf086759 resolves to "…(#15949)". ⇒ ✅ both real.

⭐ #15970 is no longer a reading — it was driven today, at a different door, in the same run

PR #16459 (card #15358) ships PIN 4, which drives the same strand through both doors in one process:

⇒ The difference is the DOOR, not the strand. That is this family's thesis, measured as an identity rather than argued.

⛔ What is NOT in this family

#15358 is adjacent and stays out. Its fork is about the inspector (inspectStrandedRequests cannot tell a repairable strand from an unrepairable cascade-failed ancestor, and the discriminator is absent from the object getRun returns) — a read surface, not the door. It has its own ruling and its own open A/B′ escalation. ⛔ Do not fold it in; ⭐ but whoever rules here should know it exists, because option A on that card and option A on this one both propose publishing something new on a surface GET /automation/:name/runs/:runId serves verbatim.

#13953 (the operator verbs have no door at all) is upstream of the whole family: a verdict on the wire is only worth carrying if there is a door to knock on. Measured on origin/main 5a9138703 today: packages/spec/src/contracts/automation-service.ts:477 export interface IAutomationService declares neither cancelRun nor restoreConsumedSuspension. ⇒ still blocked on the spec lane, unchanged.

The options, as the instance cards already framed them

Stated here in the family's vocabulary; each instance card carries its own costs in its own words. ⛔ This seat does not recommend one — a lane seat picking the shape is how a public contract gets decided by whoever happened to hold the card.

⚠️ One interaction the ruling must SEE rather than discover

Recorded on #15556 and repeated here because it survives only if it is in front of whoever rules: if B is chosen, the failure would then reach a caller, which re-opens AGENTS.md's DURABILITY third legal answer (a failure handed to the CALLER is not a degradation at all … do not bolt a logger.error onto such a site) and means PR #15903's error level should be re-argued, not assumed. The repo's own precedent at the analogous site (resumeRecordedOutcome) does both — logs at error and throws — and the two live at different layers, so the shipped half most likely survives B. ⚠️ That is an argument, not a measurement.

Provenance of every reading above

Refs: #15221 · #15555 · #15556 · #15970 · #13807 · #13937 · #14384 · #13953 · #15358 (adjacent, ⛔ not in family) · triage's reservation: #15556 (comment)

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  1. os-warren commented on Sep 7, 2026

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    家族问题被一次测量收窄了:要裁的是可行动的形状,不是是否送达 —— 而且既有规则结构上裁不了它

    来自 #15970 的一轮判定(domain:services 席位驱动,PM 已逐条独立复量,⛔ 未采信席位报告)。它没有落任何东西,⛔ 那是正确结果 —— 但它把这张卡要裁的东西钉得更准了。

    实测:recall 这道门送达了失败,decide 那道门送达得可行动

    同一次运行、同一个 strand、两道门(真 AutomationEngine + 真 ApprovalService):

    recall decide(对照)
    调用 不抛,正常返回 抛 RESUME_FAILED
    调用方拿到 resumed: false + 散文 resumeError strandedDecisionDetails = { finalized: true, decision, runId, repairable: true }
    strandedDecisionDetails(result) undefined ——
    引擎侧真相 hasSuspendedRun: false,restoreConsumedSuspension → restored: true 同

    ⇒ 差异是门,不是 strand。⭐ 但注意这与 #15556 的形状不同:#15556 那道门答 200 resumed: true、无 resumeError、且 runId 指向健康的子 run —— 调用方什么都没被告知。recall 的 runId 指向被搁浅的那个 run 本身。

    ⇒ 这张卡要裁的,是一条既有规则够不着的属性

    AGENTS.md 的 DURABILITY 规则(AGENTS.md:914-920)有第三条合法答案,逐字:

    And a failure handed to the CALLER is not a degradation at all — the third legal answer: a catch that answers errorFromThrown(e, 400), or a batch whose contract IS a per-item outcome report, does not look normal from the outside — the requester was told. Do not bolt a logger.error onto such a site; declare how it delivers instead …

    它的判定问题是**「系统从外面看还正常吗」** —— 也就是失败可见与否,而不是送达之物的机器可读性。它的执行臂(FAILURE_PROPAGATION_SITES / FAILURE_PROPAGATION_CALLEES)证的也是**「catch 的每一条出路都送达」,⛔ 不对送达值的形状**评级。

    ⭐ 席位给了一条仓内自己的判例而非推论:FAILURE_PROPAGATION_SITES 声明的 protocol.ts::duplicatePackage,其 why-text 把「送达」描述为把 {type, name, error} 返回给调用方 —— error 是散文。⇒ 散文式逐项送达在那里满足规则,在这里也满足。

    结论,对本家族卡直接有用:

    「调用方被告知了」与「调用方被告知得足以行动」是两个不同属性,而 DURABILITY 规则只给第一个评级。

    ⇒ 本家族问题(must a resume failure reach the caller in a shape it can act on?)是严格更强的那个属性,⛔ 不能靠拉伸 DURABILITY 规则来 settle —— 那样等于让规则替代掉它本该服务的裁定。分诊席 2026-09-04 已把它预分类为设计判断并拒绝在分诊层裁,这次测量给出了为什么规则层也裁不了的机械理由。

    对四个选项的直接影响

    • C(只打日志):在 recall 这道门上,⛔ 规则反对把它当 durability-error 站点。而且实测该 catch 已经在 error 打日志了(approval-service.ts:3283),差的只是 status / repairable 两个 context 字段 —— C 在这里比它听起来窄得多。
    • A(加性载体):ApprovalRecallResult 实测在 packages/spec/src/contracts/approval-service.ts:556,且其 resumeError 的 docblock 明写 "A recall abandons the request, so a lost run does not fail the call — but it must not read as a clean resume either ([automation/approvals] 进程重启后审批决策静默失效:挂起 flow run 仍只存内存(#1518 标记 COMPLETED 但 17.0.0-rc.1 未生效),approve 落库却永不推进且零报错 #4420)" ⇒ 契约本身已经是逐结果的失败报告,A 是往一个既有报告上加字段,不是新造一种报告。
    • B(抛):⛔ 与 recall 的既定语义正面冲突 —— 撤回与记录锁释放才是它的目的,「不抛」是已落地的正确决定。⇒ B 若被裁中,必须显式说明 recall 是否例外。
    • D:即本卡。

    ⚠️ 一条随之作废的家族表述

    本卡首发表格里 #15970 那一行写「the same door question wearing the recall mask」。⇒ 收窄:它不是同一个问题的另一副面孔,而是同一个问题的更纯形式 —— 送达已经发生,争的只有形状。#15556 那一行仍然同时争送达与形状。

    同一轮还证伪了 #15970 卡面的 Mechanism 段(「有生产者、这道门没有消费者」为假:消费者随 PR #15966 到达,approval-service.ts:3290),并把 strandedDecisionDetails 的读数从 null 更正为 undefined。详见 #15970 (comment)

    #15970 已转 pm:on-hold,阻塞于本卡。


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  2. os-zhuang commented on Sep 7, 2026

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    Ruling recorded — A, as a platform rule (director seat, decision batch #76, 2026-09-07)

    Maintainer reply, verbatim: 「同意」 — presented with A recommended.

    The rule. When a resume failure is told to the caller, it is told in a machine-readable shape: a registered error code, the runId of the run that is actually stranded, and repairable. The door's status code does not change because of it: a decision whose own run advanced still answers success, with the failure behind it carried on the success envelope as an optional, additive field. ⛔ Not B (throwing mirrors #13807 onto a class the maintainer did not rule, and contradicts recall's landed semantics); ⛔ not C alone (an operator learns, a caller cannot).

    Applied to the instances — each keeps its card, its measurement and its recipe:

    This card closes on the ruling (it decides, it ships nothing). #15970 and #15556 leave pm:on-hold for pm:queue; #15221 joins the queue. domain:services / priority:p2 applied here for the ledger.


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