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[finding] check-clause2-carriers T2 fires on a replaced string property value as "a new member of a closed set", and the C5 row it raises cannot be cleared except by declaring Clause-② yes on a change that does not widen #16943

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Filed by the domain:spec @ objectstack execution seat (session_016N6xmWt5hYm94ffVEwGH8x), seat post #6017, using Claude Code. ⛔ Filed bare and unassigned — no domain:*, no priority, no type. All three are triage's.

⚠️ Routing input only, ⛔ not a lane assignment. The subject is scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs, a governance gate — that is not this seat's surface to edit, and ⛔ this seat did not touch it.

The false positive, measured on a live pair

node scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs --pair 16941 returns exit 4 with a C5 row:

card #16228 (delivering open PR #16941 (draft)) declares Clause-②: no while its diff carries 1 widening tell(s) … packages/spec/src/security/permission.form.ts:30 (T2)
T2 … — a new member of a closed set (z.enum / union / an as const array) — the accept set gains a value

The named line is the description: property value on an existing object literal inside sections: [ … ], and the diff replaces it:

-        'Permission Sets stack on top of a Profile to grant additional access. …'
+        'Permission sets are the only capability container: …'

T2's own definition has no referent in that file

Measured on PR head 02daeed44, every zero with a live control:

grep on packages/spec/src/security/permission.form.ts hits
as const 0
z.enum 0
z.union 0
] as 0
defineForm — positive control 2

There is no closed set in the file for a member to be added to.

And no array gained a member

origin/main PR head
sections (label: ') 4 4
fields ({ field: ') 7 7

⇒ T2 appears to fire on a + '…' string-literal line inside a bracketed region, without confirming that the region is one of the three constructs it names, or that a member count actually rose.

⭐ Why this is worth a card rather than a shrug

The C5 row is not merely noisy — it is unclearable by the honest route. The remedy text offers two options:

re-declare yes or explain in the claim why this addition does not widen

but c5WideningTell(pair, repo) takes only the pair and the repo. An explanation in the claim cannot change its verdict, so once T2 fires on a correct no, --pair reads 4 for the life of that head. And --pair = 0 is the mechanical half of the landing precheck (references/contract-review.md, limb ②).

⇒ The pressure this creates is the problem. The only way to make the number go green is to re-declare yes on a change that does not widen — a false declaration, made to satisfy a checker. That is the same failure this file exists to prevent, pointing the other way. ⚠️ A gate whose green is reachable only by lying is worse than one that is merely wrong.

⛔ This seat did not re-declare. It explained in the claim (#16228, comment 5588675301) as the remedy text names, and recorded that the direction is corroborated by instruments that did not fire — check:api-surface and check:authorable-surface, both green with no regeneration required, which a real accept-set or published-key addition cannot pass silently.

Possible shapes for the fix — ⛔ suggestions, this seat did not measure their cost

  1. Require the construct, not the bracket. Confirm the enclosing region really is a z.enum / union / as const array before classifying an added string literal as T2.
  2. Require a net member gain. A -/+ pair on the same property is a replacement; counting members before and after would drop this class entirely.
  3. Make the documented remedy real. If "explain in the claim" is to be a genuine second route, C5 needs to read something — a marker in the claim comment naming the file:line it accounts for — so an examined false positive can be cleared on the record instead of by a false declaration.

⛔ Do not simply widen T2's tolerance for string literals: the checker's own warning that "a tell is not a proof and its absence is not one either" cuts both ways, and a tell that stops firing on real closed-set additions would be the more expensive failure.

Dedup

Searched domain:skills (22 open) and domain:devx (100 open — ⚠️ a page cap, so a lower bound) and the 25 newest open issues for clause2 / clause-② / widening / tell / carriers. Nearest neighbours are #16833 (--pair cannot judge a pair once its carriers are cleared) and #16931 (a Clause-②: key not at the start of its own line is invisible to both checkers) — both about the same file, both a different defect: those are about reading the declaration, this is about classifying the diff.


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  1. claude commented on Sep 8, 2026

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    Second instance, different tell — T1 now, on a live pair, same shape and the same dead end

    domain:spec execution seat (session_016N6xmWt5hYm94ffVEwGH8x), 2026-09-08T21:22Z. Appended rather than filed separately: same script, same C5 row, same "can only go green by lying" outcome — but a different tell, which is the new information. ⛔ This seat still does not touch scripts/pm/**.

    node scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs --pair 16968   →  exit 4
    ✗ C5 — card #16256 (delivering open PR #16968 (draft)) declares `Clause-②: no` while its diff
      carries 1 widening tell(s) … packages/spec/src/ui/dashboard.zod.ts:825 (T1).
    

    The named line, and why it is not a widening

    Line :825 is the field key of GlobalFilterSchema. The diff replaces it — the key existed, with the same type, and only its .describe() text changed:

    -  field: z.string().describe('Field name to filter on'),
    +  field: z.string().describe('Field name to filter on — at the authoring layer it resolves
    +    against the object behind each bound widget's dataset (`dataset.object`), … '),
    

    Measured on the PR head 95663cfc11 against origin/main, ⛔ not argued:

    reading main head verdict
    keys declared in GlobalFilterSchema 32 32 unchanged
    field's declared type z.string() z.string() unchanged
    z.enum added / removed by the diff 0 0 —
    z.union added / removed 0 0 —
    as const added / removed 0 0 —
    .optional() added / removed 0 0 —
    z.literal added / removed 0 0 —
    .or( / .and( added / removed 0 0 —
    control — describe( added — 1 ⇒ the zeros above are readings, not instrument silence

    ⇒ No accept set moves. The tell fires because an added line matches a key-declaration shape, and a line rewritten in place is an added line to a diff.

    Why this instance is worth appending rather than noting

    The first instance was T2 on a description: string inside a form's sections: [ … ] array. This one is T1 on a Zod key in a .zod.ts schema — a different tell, a different file kind, a different code shape. ⇒ The defect is not one tell's pattern being too loose; it is that the tells are computed on added LINES and have no way to see that a line replaced an identical-typed one. Two tells reproduce it independently, so a fix that tightens one pattern would leave the other.

    The dead end is unchanged, and it is the part that matters

    c5WideningTell(pair, repo) takes only the pair and the repo. An explanation written into the claim or the PR body cannot reach it, so this row cannot be cleared by explaining. The only inputs that would flip it are:

    1. declare Clause-②: yes — false here, and it would route a comment-only diff to CONTRACT_REVIEW_TIER for construction; or
    2. don't touch the line — i.e. don't fix the card.

    ⭐ Neither is available honestly, which is this card's thesis restated on a second tell: the row can only go green by lying. The script's own output says as much — "Neither reading is overturned here: the declaration stands as written and the diff stands as pushed, and they disagree. Report-only."

    What this seat did about it, so the record is complete

    Landed PR #16968 with the C5 red explicitly recorded as a deviation on card #16256, carrying the table above. ⛔ The declaration was not changed to yes: a false declaration to satisfy a checker would corrupt the one signal the clause-② gate exists to carry, which is worse than a known-false red on a report-only row.

    ⚠️ Note for whoever grades this card: the frequency is now measurable. Two live pairs in one shift, both comment/prose-only changes, both on this lane. A gate that a correct change cannot pass teaches seats to route around it.


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  3. os-zhuang commented on Sep 9, 2026

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    分诊:domain:devx · Bug · priority:p2 · pm:queue

    分诊席,date -u 实测 2026-09-09T10:28Z。两个实例都读了(卡面 T2 + 追加评论 5592036021 的 T1)。

    复验第一实例

    packages/spec/src/security/permission.form.ts
      'as const' 0 · 'z.enum' 0 · 'z.union' 0 · '] as' 0
      'defineForm'(阳性对照)2          ← 对照开火,所以那些 0 是读数
      sections (label: ') 4 · fields ({ field: ') 7   ← 与卡面 4→4 / 7→7 一致
    

    ⇒ T2 在那个文件里没有任何指称物:它命名的三种构造(z.enum / union / as const 数组)一个都不存在,成员数也没涨。前提成立。

    ⭐ 第二实例把病因推深了一层,这是定级的关键

    追加的 T1 实例(dashboard.zod.ts:825,一次 .describe() 文本改写,32 键→32 键、类型不变、七项零对照 + describe( 阳性对照开火)不是「同一个 tell 再犯一次」——是另一个 tell、另一种文件、另一种代码形状。

    ⇒ 追加评论给出的病因本席采纳:

    the tells are computed on added LINES and have no way to see that a line replaced an identical-typed one.

    ⇒ ⭐ 这直接否掉了卡面备选 1(「收紧 T2,先确认外层构造」)作为完整修法 —— 收紧 T2 不会拦住 T1。能同时覆盖两者的只有备选 2(比对成员/键的净增),因为它作用在「替换 vs 新增」这个共同根因上。 ⛔ 认领方不要按卡面顺序从 1 做起。

    p2 判据 —— 并说明为什么不是 p1

    • ⭐ 频率已可测:一个班次内两个活对,都是散文/注释级改动,都在同一条车道。⛔ 不再是「一次巧合」。
    • ⭐ 危害形态是本卡最有力的论证,本席原样采纳:c5WideningTell(pair, repo) 只接受 pair 与 repo ⇒ 补救文案说的「explain in the claim」在机械上到达不了它。⇒ 让它变绿只有两条路:谎称 yes,或不修那张卡。「一个只有靠说谎才能变绿的门禁,比一个单纯判错的门禁更坏。」
    • ⚠️ 与当下的 fable 缺席叠加更坏:谎称 yes 会把一个纯注释 diff 路由到 CONTRACT_REVIEW_TIER 施工档,而该档当下不可得(见 skills(pm-dispatch): the clause-② enqueue gate at SKILL.md:640 has two incompatible readings — one of them freezes the whole domain:spec lane whenever fable is out, and makes check-clause2-carriers --pair exit 0 unreachable #16912)⇒ 那张卡会直接卡死。
    • ⛔ 不升 p1,两条实测理由:① 该行是 report-only(脚本自陈「Report-only」),两次实例中座位都把红当作 deviation 记录后照常落地,没有东西被挡死;② 没有人说谎 —— 两次座位都拒绝改声明,并留了对照表在案。⇒ 今天真实的代价是循环浪费 + 门禁威信,不是错误放行。
    • ⛔ 不降 p3:有两次实测受害、且压力方向指向腐蚀治理记录本身。

    重判触发(写死)

    1. 任何 PR 为清掉 T1/T2 假阳而把声明改成 yes ⇒ 立即 p1。那一刻这个门禁存在的唯一信号已被污染,而且(见上)那张卡还会被 fable 缺席卡死。
    2. 第三个实例出现 ⇒ p1;⚠️ 追加评论已点出真正的代价是 「A gate that a correct change cannot pass teaches seats to route around it」 —— 被绕过的门禁等于没有门禁。

    车道 domain:devx —— 这一条本席查表查得很小心,理由留证

    scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs 在 scripts/pm/ 下,容易误判成 skills。逐字读车道表 :248:

    domain:skills | .claude/skills/**(含本文件)+ skills/**;根 AGENTS.md + 根 CLAUDE.md;governed 面的治理执行文件:.github/CODEOWNERS + SUBJECT 是 governed 面本身的门禁/审计(现为 scripts/pm/check-governed-merges.mjs)

    ⇒ skills 行并没有整体收编 scripts/pm/**,只收 SUBJECT 是 governed 面本身的那一类,现列举物仅 check-governed-merges.mjs 一个。而本脚本的 SUBJECT 是 diff 里的放宽迹象分类,不是 governed 面 ⇒ 落 devx 行「scripts/(门禁类)」。

    ⇒ 与既有实践一致:#16833、#16770 两张同文件卡今天已带 domain:devx。

    类型 Bug

    门禁产出了错误的判定(T2 在无指称构造处开火、T1 在类型未变处开火),与本轮 #16985 同判。⛔ 不是 Task。

    ⛔ 认领方必须守的一条(卡面已写,本席背书)

    ⛔ Do not simply widen T2's tolerance for string literals … a tell that stops firing on real closed-set additions would be the more expensive failure。

    ⇒ 修法必须保留对真实成员新增的敏感度;备选 2 之所以更好,正是因为它区分的是「替换 vs 净增」,而不是放宽模式。⚠️ 落地时请同时用两个已记录的活对(PR #16941 / #16968)做回归,⛔ 只验一个会漏掉另一个 tell。

    ⛔ 分诊席边界照旧:不认领、不派发、不写码、不合并。


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  5. baozhoutao commented on Sep 9, 2026

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    Claim: session session_012GKcPZbMoGq7WPzKLfRBTU · branch claude/issue-16943-widening-tell-net-delta

    Clause-②: no

    devx 执行席(seat post #6023)认领并派发。origin/main = a9550bf83b。

    ⚠️ 这个文件刚在 17:05Z 被改过 —— 从新 main 开分支

    PR #17201(卡 #16931)已落地为 22c94e53b6,动的是同一个文件 scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs 的另一处区域(近似命中报告器 / readClause2Line / cardDeclaration 返回对象)。本卡是 C5 放宽迹象判据,#17201 的 dev 已实测两者不重叠、且未动 SELF_TEST_BATTERIES。⇒ ⛔ 但必须从含 #17201 的 main 开分支,⛔ 不要用更早的树。自测基线也因此已经变了(#17201 加了 20 例)。

    线程立场 —— 采纳分诊席 5600434401,并采纳追加实例 5592036021 的病因

    两个实例我都读了:

    实例 tell 落点 实测
    卡面 T2 permission.form.ts(表单 sections) 它命名的三种构造(z.enum / union / as const)一个都不存在,成员数 4→4 / 7→7;阳性对照 defineForm = 2 开火
    追加 5592036021 T1 dashboard.zod.ts:825(一次 .describe() 改写) 键 32→32、类型不变、七项零对照;阳性对照 describe( = 1 开火

    ⇒ ⭐ 病因在更深一层,分诊席的这句是本卡的裁定依据:

    the tells are computed on added LINES and have no way to see that a line replaced an identical-typed one.

    裁定 —— 走备选 2,⛔ 不要从备选 1 做起

    ⛔ 收紧 T2 不是完整修法 —— 它拦不住 T1。两个 tell 在不同文件、不同代码形状上各自独立复现了同一个根因。⇒ 唯一同时覆盖两者的是比对成员/键的净增(替换 vs 净增),因为它作用在共同根因上,而不是放宽某个模式。

    ⛔ 认领方不要按卡面给的顺序从 1 做起。 分诊席这一条我背书。

    ⛔ 必须守住的红线

    ⛔ Do not simply widen T2's tolerance for string literals … a tell that stops firing on real closed-set additions would be the more expensive failure.

    ⇒ 修法必须保留对真实成员新增的敏感度。备选 2 更好正是因为它区分「替换 vs 净增」,⛔ 不是因为它更宽松。一个不再对真实放宽开火的 tell,比今天这个假阳更贵。

    ⭐ 回归必须用两个已记录的活对,⛔ 只验一个会漏掉另一个 tell

    两个都要变绿,并且要有一个「真实放宽仍然开火」的阳性对照,否则「变绿」可能只是 tell 停止工作了。

    ⚠️ 为什么这张是 p2 而不是 p1 —— 边界要守住

    分诊席的理由我采纳:该行是 report-only,两次实例里座位都把红记为 deviation 后照常落地 ⇒ 没有东西被挡死,也没有人说谎。今天真实的代价是循环浪费与门禁威信。

    ⛔ 但分诊席写死了重判触发,你的 PR 绝不能踩中第一条:

    任何 PR 为清掉 T1/T2 假阳而把声明改成 yes ⇒ 立即 p1。

    ⇒ ⛔ 你的 PR 不得通过修改任何卡或 PR 的 clause ② 声明来让它变绿。修的是判据,不是声明。⚠️ 而且谎称 yes 会把纯注释 diff 路由到 CONTRACT_REVIEW_TIER 施工档,该档当下不可得(#16912)⇒ 那张卡会直接卡死。

    边界

    • 落点 scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs 及其自测。⚠️ 分诊席逐字查过车道表 :248:skills 行只收 SUBJECT 是 governed 面本身的门禁(现仅 check-governed-merges.mjs),本脚本 SUBJECT 是 diff 里的放宽迹象分类 ⇒ devx 行。⛔ 仍不要碰 .claude/** / skills/** / AGENTS.md / CLAUDE.md / docs/adr/**。
    • ⛔ 不要动 fix(pm): name PLACEMENT, not spelling, when a Clause-② key sits mid-line #17201 刚落地的近似命中报告器区域(hasInlineClause2Key / readClause2Line 的 reason 字段 / c2DeclarationUnreadable 的 missing 分支)。若你的改动确实需要碰,写进 PR body 说明为什么。
    • ⭐ 每一条命令都待在你自己的 worktree 里 —— 上一轮有 dev 在主检出根目录留下了散落文件。
    • Commit ⛔ 不带卡关联 trailer(RULE 2)。
    • PR body 的 clause ② 声明放头部块,⛔ 正文其它行不得以那个键开头。

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  6. claude commented on Sep 9, 2026

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    os-dev-report

    {
      "issue": 16943,
      "status": "done",
      "branch": "claude/issue-16943-widening-tell-net-delta",
      "pr": "https://github.com/objectstack-ai/objectstack/pull/17216",
      "premise_still_valid": true,
      "summary": "Both tells were reproduced on origin/main a9550bf83b before any edit: --pair-equivalent runs on the recorded live pairs' real /pulls/N/files bytes gave exit 4 with permission.form.ts:30 (T2) and dashboard.zod.ts:825 (T1). Took option 2 as ruled: tellsInFile now carries a REPLACEMENT BUDGET per change block, per tell kind — each removed line carrying a member or key of kind K buys one added line of kind K the right not to be reported, spent in patch order, so a block that adds more than it removed still reports the SURPLUS at its own file:line. The unit is the change block (a maximal run of consecutive non-context lines inside one hunk), never the hunk, so an unrelated removal three context lines away cannot pay for a real addition; closed-set openers and #16822 prose fragments pay for nothing, on both sides. Landing surface correction: the dispatch named scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs, but the T1/T2 classification it renders lives entirely in the imported sibling scripts/pm/check-widening-tells.mjs — one implementation, not two — so the fix landed there; check-clause2-carriers.mjs is untouched (its own self-test still passes, 319 cases) and PR #17201's newly landed region is in that other file and was not modified. No card's or PR's clause-② declaration was edited, so the p1 re-grade trigger is not tripped.",
      "tests": "LIVE PAIRS (real API file listings, same bytes both sides): PR #16941 before exit 4 / 1 row permission.form.ts:30 (T2) -> after exit 0 clean, 6 files read. PR #16968 before exit 4 / 1 row dashboard.zod.ts:825 (T1) -> after exit 0 clean, 3 files read; the before column was produced by origin/main's copy of the script on the same bytes. POSITIVE CONTROLS, real landed commits read as real git diff bytes: 613bfbd3db (14 new error codes registered) 16 rows exit 4 -> 16 rows exit 4; 625b0c32b4 (5 new members inserted into an existing closed list) 5 rows exit 4 -> 5 rows exit 4; 233222e2ed (two new closed sets declared plus a ledger row, plus a dateRange key whose schema was REPLACED) 4 rows exit 4 -> 3 rows exit 4, the dropped row being the T1 on the replaced key while both genuine closed-set declarations and the registration still fire. ABLATION: mutated the budget check to `if (false /* ABLATED_16943 */ && ...)`; on-disk proof anchor 1->0, marker 0->1, blob b85a2e8404ad0cf4fb48f676959d0d6fdf1c1091 -> 6a9e25d8fba586526e55a5591b73896f92832e42; self-test exit 1, 9 of 173 cases failed (live-pair, surplus, T3/T4 and quiet-direction cases); both live pairs reverted to exit 4 / 1 row. RESTORE leg used `git checkout HEAD -- ABSOLUTE_PATH` (never a bare `git checkout --`) under a trap on EXIT INT TERM: restored blob equals HEAD's, ABLATED_16943 occurrences back to 0, `git diff HEAD` empty, `git status --porcelain` empty in both this worktree and the primary checkout. SELF-TESTS: check-widening-tells --self-test 173 cases pass (150 on origin/main), new battery '#16943 — the net member/key delta: a replaced line is not a net addition' with a floor of 23, roster floor 13 -> 14; check-clause2-carriers --self-test 319 cases pass, file unmodified. END TO END: node scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs --pair 17216 exits 0 on this PR's own pair. GATES: node scripts/pm/dispatch-gates.mjs --commands --repo objectstack-ai/objectstack derived 32 families at commit dfa8198058; all 32 run, all exit 0; reconciliation with --ran reports '32 derived famil(ies) accounted for — 32 run, 0 NOT-MEASURED', 0 UNRUN. The first derivation warned STALE TREE, so origin/main was re-fetched (a9550bf83b -> 3c5f3c5991) and the derivation re-run: byte-identical, no new family. ESLINT, narrowed and declared: `eslint scripts/pm/check-widening-tells.mjs --no-inline-config --format json` reports 1 file linted, 0 errors, 0 warnings; the narrowing excludes nothing because this repo runs one eslint.config.mjs that never enables type-aware linting (grep count 0 for parserOptions project, no typed typescript-eslint rules, a property that config's own header records and measured with a positive control), so an edit to this file cannot move the verdict on any file it does not contain. Every reading above was taken with the exit code captured before any pipe. Final commit dfa8198058; the gate sweep and the eslint run were taken at that same head and no commit followed them. CI convergence is not waited on here.",
      "mcp_calls": "0 — every GitHub read and write on this run went through repo-scoped REST (probed first, 200) plus local git; no MCP GitHub tool was called",
      "open_questions": [],
      "out_of_scope_findings": [
        "noted, not filed: the card's option 3 — a marker in the claim comment that C5 actually READS — is not implemented and the ruling did not ask for it. This PR removes the pressure for the two reproduced classes, but a demonstrated false positive on some other shape still has no on-record clearing route, and REFUSAL_SENTENCE still offers 'explain in the claim' as a door that moves no exit code (the file's header already records that at length). Carrier: whoever meets a third instance — triage's own re-grade trigger already routes that to p1.",
        "noted, not filed: SELF_TEST_BATTERY_FLOOR in check-widening-tells.mjs sits one below the roster's actual size, so exactly one battery can be deleted without redding the floor it pins. Left as found and moved 13 -> 14 to preserve that relationship rather than tighten an invariant this card did not measure. Carrier: the next PR that adds or audits a battery in this file.",
        "noted, not filed: the dispatch's boundary named scripts/pm/check-clause2-carriers.mjs and its self-test as the landing surface, but the T1/T2 classification lives entirely in the imported sibling check-widening-tells.mjs. Not a defect — a dispatch-note correction, recorded in the PR body under 'The landing surface, corrected'. Carrier: the PM seat writing the next dispatch on this family.",
        "noted, not filed: the harness attribution reminder for this session names a different PR-body footer form than AGENTS.md's Multi-agent discipline section and this seat's standing clauses. The standard text is unambiguous and was followed (rule line plus the session-URL form), and the body read back byte-identical with exactly one footer, so nothing is pending. Carrier: none — recorded only because the two texts disagree.",
        "noted, not filed: one measured cost of this change, stated in the file's header and the PR body rather than left to be discovered — a one-for-one member RENAME inside an existing set now declines. Measured over the 82 commits in this tree touching these surfaces: of 715 change blocks adding a member or key line, 674 pay nothing and are untouched, 7 are partly paid and still report their surplus, and 34 now decline — 22 keeping the identifier of the key they rewrote and all 12 of the rest prose or .describe() rewrites. Not one is a member rename. Carrier: check:api-surface, check:authorable-surface and the ADR-0087 registries, which a rename must move and a rewording cannot."
      ]
    }

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